[sorry for my latter incomplete message(s) sent, it seems Outlook has tur= n crazy today...] Hi Steve, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Baldwin" | > I am not even planning to read and plot temperature curves. | | I did and that gives me enough information to manually control the | oven to get a near perfect temp curve. I have a thermocouple on the | same plane as the board being soldered and use that to control | what I turn on/off and when. A good idea is to build a thermal datalogger PCB with several thermocouples over it, obviously soldered with high-temperature solder, t= o record the profile in several points of the board. That's the way the ove= n 'tuning' it's done on industrial reflow linear ovens (Siemens SIPLACE one= s, for example). | Turn on the oven with both elements on full and the fan on. | When the temp reaches 150=B0C, turn the elements off and leave the | fan on. I know that the temp will overshoot by 5=B0C and won't fall | back down below 150=B0C within the 2 minutes preheat time. | After the 2 minute pause I turn the fan off and put the top element | on full. In just over a minute, it will reach 200=B0C. When it reaches | 215=B0C I turn it off, knowing that it will overshoot to a max of 225=B0= C. | At that point the fan goes on and when it drops to about 190=B0C, I | open the door. | The whole process takes about 10 minutes which is a welcome | break and gives your eyes a chance to refocus on things further | away than 6". | | I have a pneumatic paste dispenser which is way faster than a | manual syringe but if I was going to improve the process anywhere, | it would be making a solder screen. It would reduce the paste | application stage to a few minutes, regardless of the board | complexity. I can't see the point in messing round with an x,y | applicator when a screen will use a lot of the same techniques and | equipment as making a PCB. | | Steve. I've done a little research on this topic, mainly on industrial equipment= s available, from a practical point of view. Here at our School we need to build such an oven for development purposes (fine-pitch DSP's...). About the screen, the guys i've met said that the industry standard is a, LASER made, stainless steel stencil (=3D $$$...). They never saw a screen doing the job. However, we'll do some experiments with a screen, mainly d= ue to economical reasons. We've seen the "Toaster Oven " page from the Seattle guys, and their amazing results with only an "On/Off" control law over a first order plant. We'll try with some feedback. We've just recorded our plant's (grill oven... :o) temperature step response (2 thermocouples hanged). The data obtained fits very well an exponential response, with some delay (verified w/MATLAB). The main control problem is the plant's delay. Best regards, S.- -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads