Wagner, Our quantities are much smaller and we have most of our assemblies produced by local outside contractors on automated equipment. In side by side cost comparisons of more than a few (say 5) units with complexity as you describe it's not even close. Of course, you have to be honest about your in-house costs. Just send it out for a quote. Try these guys: mehta@silitronics.com or prasad.rao@adec.com . Best luck, Dave Wagner Lipnharski wrote: > > This case should be somehow not rare, and it is important to contribute for > a decision about the issue. > > We have a partner company that produces several small quantity SMD boards > by hand (50 mils pitch). Mostly related to calibration and small production > portable physical variables generator. Those products did show a great > potential for the market, so some money will be invested for a production > of 500 units, some sales ad will be produced, finally the company will bet > on some good profit with this product. The main idea is to produce 500 > units and if the sales would answer as expected, they will double > production and sales effort every some time. > > The point is; > > This actual small quantity boards, are being assembled by hand, SMD > positioned, soldered, etc. They asked me to develop a tactical plan to > show them when and for what quantity justify to use outsourcing contractor > to assemble the board in automated machines. > > This is really a time consuming research, since every contractor will > demand analysis of the job, several items to discuss and probably they will > not be interested in such quantity of only 500 units. > > I may be wrong, but previous experiences shows that there is a large GAP > between the maximum quantity hand production, and the minimum automated > machinery production. This GAP can kill a product, since or you have > enough money to invest in a big jump in quantity production, or you will > not be able to supply your growing demand. > > I also understand that may have around people with small machines doing a > good automated job, but exactly because they are small, they do not > advertise, so one can not find them. > > Some hints about what kind of quantities in SMD components can be > considered for a small machine production? Suppose 15 SMD ICs, 25 > resistors and capacitors, few leds, and around 15 some mixed thru-hole > components, in a board lets say 3 x 4 inch, who can produce it around in > 500 quantities? Location can be anywhere in US, of course it would be nice > to have or in Houston or in Orlando. > > I would like also to discuss if someone have personal experience in > situations like that, problems, solutions, hints, tips, alerts, etc. > > Before someone asks, the SMD being assembled by hand is exactly the path > from small to higher production, somehow they believe that the product > shouldn't change (thru-hole to SMD), just production quantity will change > in time. > > Thank you. > Wagner. > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList > mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads