RS used to sell a flux paste in a syringe that would facilitate the method you describe - Only works well if you use a soldering iron with a wave/hoof tip. But your right - flux the pads, plonk the chip down, load solder into well on tip and then just brush down the pins and hey presto one soldered chip. Colin -- cdb, bodgy1@optusnet.com.au on 18/11/2002 -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads