This case should be somehow not rare, and it is important to contribute for a decision about the issue. We have a partner company that produces several small quantity SMD boards by hand (50 mils pitch). Mostly related to calibration and small production portable physical variables generator. Those products did show a great potential for the market, so some money will be invested for a production of 500 units, some sales ad will be produced, finally the company will bet on some good profit with this product. The main idea is to produce 500 units and if the sales would answer as expected, they will double production and sales effort every some time. The point is; This actual small quantity boards, are being assembled by hand, SMD positioned, soldered, etc. They asked me to develop a tactical plan to show them when and for what quantity justify to use outsourcing contractor to assemble the board in automated machines. This is really a time consuming research, since every contractor will demand analysis of the job, several items to discuss and probably they will not be interested in such quantity of only 500 units. I may be wrong, but previous experiences shows that there is a large GAP between the maximum quantity hand production, and the minimum automated machinery production. This GAP can kill a product, since or you have enough money to invest in a big jump in quantity production, or you will not be able to supply your growing demand. I also understand that may have around people with small machines doing a good automated job, but exactly because they are small, they do not advertise, so one can not find them. Some hints about what kind of quantities in SMD components can be considered for a small machine production? Suppose 15 SMD ICs, 25 resistors and capacitors, few leds, and around 15 some mixed thru-hole components, in a board lets say 3 x 4 inch, who can produce it around in 500 quantities? Location can be anywhere in US, of course it would be nice to have or in Houston or in Orlando. I would like also to discuss if someone have personal experience in situations like that, problems, solutions, hints, tips, alerts, etc. Before someone asks, the SMD being assembled by hand is exactly the path from small to higher production, somehow they believe that the product shouldn't change (thru-hole to SMD), just production quantity will change in time. Thank you. Wagner. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu