From PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Fri Nov 15 04:15:36 2002 Received: from cherry.ease.lsoft.com [209.119.0.109] by dpmail10.doteasy.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.13) id A56819710080; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 04:15:36 -0800 Received: from PEAR.EASE.LSOFT.COM (209.119.0.19) by cherry.ease.lsoft.com (LSMTP for Digital Unix v1.1b) with SMTP id <23.007DB729@cherry.ease.lsoft.com>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 7:01:33 -0500 Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1503 for PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:01:23 -0500 Received: from MITVMA (NJE origin SMTP@MITVMA) by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LMail V1.2d/1.8d) with BSMTP id 7712; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 06:59:30 -0500 Received: from nameserv.rl.ac.uk [130.246.135.129] by mitvma.mit.edu (IBM VM SMTP Level 320) via TCP with ESMTP ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 06:59:29 EST X-Comment: mitvma.mit.edu: Mail was sent by nameserv.rl.ac.uk Received: from sstdwkiwi (sstdwkiwi.ag.rl.ac.uk [130.246.189.231]) by nameserv.rl.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA30208 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:59:29 GMT References: <6CB89428-F869-11D6-9E9B-000A27D6F4A6@sdalcorn.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Message-ID: <01d001c28c9e$746c6f20$e7bdf682@sstdwkiwi> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:59:30 -0000 Reply-To: pic microcontroller discussion list Sender: pic microcontroller discussion list From: "Alan B. Pearce" Subject: Re: [OT]: Dude, where's my car ? Oh, that green guy's got it To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU X-RCPT-TO: Status: R X-UIDL: 277600636 X-Evolution-Source: pop://mailinglist%40farcite.net@mail.farcite.net/ Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Evolution: 00000752-0000 >I've often thought of doing what you are proposing, but >I was going to use mace! It's readily available, legal >(as far as I know), and will make the buggers squirm a >little in pain! Well if you are prepared to write off the car :)) then how about having a "puffball" that is fired by a fireworks type cracker, that sprays pepper powder everywhere, gets in eyes, nose etc, makes them sneeze, possibly loose control of car, hence crash and write it off (if your lucky, them as well). The puff ball could be disguised as one of those deodorant balls that are available for making the car "smell pleasant", but once the cracker blows the top off (or some inquisitive miscreant takes it off to laugh at it) then something inside explodes the fine powder everywhere. Jinx said >AFAIK Mace and other incapacitating sprays are still >illegal in NZ. You will be prosecuted. So it has to >be harmless but effective This is where using pepper may be an advantage. You do like the smell of pepper, after all you have lots of it on your steak, etc :)))) >Alarm is triggered silently -> Doors lock and deadlock -> Ignition and fuel >pump are cut -> Wait for car to come to standstill for safety purposes -> >Smoke canister triggered causing temporary blindness in car -> High powered >strobe activated to add to confusion and blindness -> Very loud siren >(possibly voice asking to report to police) triggered. ->Mobile phone linked >to GPS to dial owner of car reporting exact position. Well I have thought of the possibility of locking all the doors etc, and then having a sound system at high power scream "Rape" and other such words. >But personally I think Some High VOLTAGE will do the trick... Even if it is just an arc running along the top of the dashboard - make them look, wonder what else is about to happen, just before the trembler coil under the seat gives them a jolt in the backside you mean :))) >This may rupture the eardrums of the car thief (that's >HIS problem), and if there's any question about the >siren, you just claim that it exceeded the permitted >levels for external use, so you fitted it inside the >cabin to minimise noise nuisance! I like it, but most of the little devils likely to be the miscreants that would take your car are probably already in this state with their eardrums anyway - but that might give you a legal argument that you did not damage their eardrums, they were already damaged :))) >Just in case anyone is interested ;-) > >http://www.bullnet.co.uk/shops/test/alarms.htm > >worth a look at the smoke bombs Now there is a thought. In the UK Maplin advertise smoke fluid for putting in those generators they use in discos. About GBP4.99 for a litre, and comes in two grades. If you had a resistor that you could organise to be glowing close to red hot, and drip this onto the resistor, hide the lot under the dash, so when they try and hot wire the car, much smoke issues from under dash :)))) The Maplin fluid is claimed to be water based, and not leave oily residue. Small fan to help waft it out from under dash, or maybe fire up the heater fan and send it out the vents :))) -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.