From PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Fri Nov 15 00:34:22 2002 Received: from cherry.ease.lsoft.com [209.119.0.109] by dpmail10.doteasy.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.13) id A18E11AA00B0; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:34:22 -0800 Received: from PEAR.EASE.LSOFT.COM (209.119.0.19) by cherry.ease.lsoft.com (LSMTP for Digital Unix v1.1b) with SMTP id <6.007DB2CC@cherry.ease.lsoft.com>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 3:20:20 -0500 Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 9998 for PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 03:20:05 -0500 Received: from MITVMA (NJE origin SMTP@MITVMA) by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LMail V1.2d/1.8d) with BSMTP id 4937; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 03:19:17 -0500 Received: from smtp2.clear.net.nz [203.97.37.27] by mitvma.mit.edu (IBM VM SMTP Level 320) via TCP with ESMTP ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 03:19:14 EST X-Comment: mitvma.mit.edu: Mail was sent by smtp2.clear.net.nz Received: from joe (203-167-138-13.dialup.clear.net.nz [203.167.138.13]) by smtp2.clear.net.nz (CLEAR Net Mail) with SMTP id <0H5L00FKZZ3M1Z@smtp2.clear.net.nz> for PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 21:19:03 +1300 (NZDT) MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <000c01c28c70$43834f60$98a8a7cb@joe> <4.3.2.7.2.20021115021235.02bf4e48@postoffice2.mail.cornell.edu> Message-ID: <001d01c28c7f$a163c240$98a8a7cb@joe> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 21:18:44 +1300 Reply-To: pic microcontroller discussion list Sender: pic microcontroller discussion list From: Jinx Subject: Re: [OT]: Dude, where's my car ? Oh, that green guy's got it To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU X-RCPT-TO: Status: R X-UIDL: 277600603 X-Evolution-Source: pop://mailinglist%40farcite.net@mail.farcite.net/ X-Evolution: 00000733-0000 > Do you really think it is advisable to install a system in your car that > could possibly cause an accident? What if it goes off while you are > driving? Even more likely, what if it goes off while the perp is driving > and he runs into someone and kills them? It would very easy to isolate the system with double switching and cover the nozzle or whatever with a cap (like a trigger guard). And by the same token prevent the system deploying when the car is running or moving, even when armed. That could also be done with dual isolation. The usual remedy for stopping them is a fuel cut-off that lets them get a few yards I preferred the squirting to be done from the dash as there would be less chance of a lot getting on the upholstery. There must be a combination of dye / fabric protection (eg Scotchguard) / dye neutraliser that would work together. I'm not talking a Bentley with ostrich leather and rainforest panelling AFAIK Mace and other incapacitating sprays are still illegal in NZ. You will be prosecuted. So it has to be harmless but effective > The only problem with anything like this type of system though is > that they may come back (when they've recovered) and take revenge > on your poor little car! What can I say. If you do nothing, then what ? Chances are it'll be a joyrider, but it might not be. Probably something to check with the insurance company. If you aggravate a thief into doing damage, how would the insurance company view that. They're always looking for any little excuse not to pay up. But that still doesn't give some little scrote the right to do anything to someone else's property > Has something happened to you recently that has prompted the > evil side of your creative mind to spring into action? :-) No. I just don't like thieves. Especially the remorselesss little scumbags that seem to be around in hordes these days -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.