On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Micro Eng wrote: *>In addition, using the ICD to program the chip in circuit, it seems that I *>don't always get a good burn. In other words, I can program it once, and *>something doesn't work quite right, and then I can reburn, and it does work. *> Anyone else seeing this as well? I haven't seen this but with some chip+board+icsp programmer combinations and chips re-used dozens (?) of times in development cycles I did have to issue up to four consecutive erase commands (without programming anything) to restore reliable operation in chips used for development. Especially windowed parts (where the erase command was 1/2 day spent under 1kW of Hg vapor lamps - normal erase time is 10 minutes) had this sort of problem (like 16C711JW ans 12C509JW). Peter -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads