Real world stuff. EE's in school always deal with ideal diodes and transistors at 25C with no noise. Find stuff that fails when it gets hot, gets hit by noise transients, or gets plugged in. Say you build a DC power supply where the pass transistor works until it gets hot, or a PIC circuit with an unfiltered 5V supply that works on a battery supply but not on a line voltage supply. Have them work with it until they begin to understand the usual culprits. This isn't really equipment so much as projects. "A murder? Round up all the usual suspects!" --Dick Tracy -- Lawrence Lile Cris Wilson Sent by: pic microcontroller discussion list 11/13/02 11:02 AM Please respond to pic microcontroller discussion list To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU cc: Subject: Re: [EE]:Equipment suggestions for a student electronics lab > Anything that anyone would > > like to see fresh B. Eng's having experience in? The biggest complaint that I hear is that they don't know how to troubleshoot a broken circuit. So trouble shooting circuits would have to be at the top of my list. I've also heard complaints that they couldn't figure out transistor logic. Good luck. _____________________________________________________________ Cris Wilson Information Resource Consultant College of Architecture, Arts, and Humanities Clemson University cris@clemson.edu To report problems email: aah_computers@clemson.edu -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads