nitrocellulose is somewhat soluble in isopropyl alcohol. Common stuff, over here (think NC laquer rather than gunpowder. Or "nail polish") Another possibility is some of the micro-fine powdered polyethylene (again, used in the cosmetic industry.) I probably wouldn't work quite by itself, by you could probably put it in a water/alcohol carrier and then bake it on to fuse it to the copper. (rather similar to laser printer toner in that respect.) For that matter, I wonder what's in those opaque-ink "gel" pens that are appearing all over (these have a light-colored base that works on black paper, but they're fluid enough to work in more-or-less standard ballpoint mechanisms...) BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads