> Doesn't sending your boards to Advanced Circuits or PCB Express sound > pretty good by now? It's been entertaining watching the each flaky idea > trump the next on this thread, but it's getting a bit rediculous now. My original spec of using special ink in a bubblejet followed by etching and SMD hot air soldering is not flaky at all. The only real issue is finding a suitable ink, and then the system would be many times cheaper and faster than any commercial board house and suitable for one-off with tiny PCBs. I have discussed the ink issue with my girlfriend (who is an industrial chemist) and the problems should be simple so solve if anyone gave a damn. I also checked the ink cartridge in my bubblejet, it says "solvent = isopropyl alcohol" so obviously the plastic and all mechanisms are alcohol safe. This should make it EASY to find a suitable ink or lacquer. The problem of filling the bubblejet cartridge is already solved with refil kits available at office supply stores. Cristian has solved the PCB feed issues or come some of the way to solving them. I have a piece of PCB cleaned and ready and am trying different ink and lacquer ideas as the ideas arise but I am busy with some important projects right now. Maybe if the brain bank spent less criticising and saying "go to PCB house" (which is NO help to anyone) some clever person here could find a really smart ink solution. Or is it just Cristian and myself who think that a "5 mins to soldering" prototyping system is worth building? -Roman -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads