> This brings up another question I have. How to people (hobbyist) prototype > with surface mount parts? For protyping I try to avoid them, although you often can't or shouldn't for other reasons. For parts that don't need to be programmed, I solder them to the board and deal with problems as they arise. For programmable parts we use transition sockets that bring the surface mount footprint out to something that can be socketed. Microchip sells transition sockets for most (all ?) of their PIC packages for use with the ICE-2000. ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics