Could be the infamous font problem. Do you have "always use vector fonts" configured ? (apparently, you should - there are difficulties with win font handling otherwise that cause all manner of strange behaviors.) BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads