Err, I didn't measure temp in my freezer. I made 1 assumption: ice melting on a chip will be at a temp very close to 0*C = 32F Then, I touched the chip and burned my finger after using the soldering iron on it. My next assumption was based on experience... Temp must have been abowe 50*C for me to burn my finger. So 0-50*C gave less than 20 kHz total variation. Kyrre ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Hutchinson" To: Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [PIC]: How is the stability of the 16F628's internaloscillator ? > You better check the owners manual for your refrigerator freezer, grab a > thermometer and tweak the thermostat. Every freezer I've used is designed to > run at 0 to 5 degreesF and the refrigerator compartment is between 32 an 38 > degF. A temperature of 10 to 20degF in a freezer will give soft ice cream > and premature food spoilage. > > Here's a publication from the USDA about temperature for food storage > safety. > http://www.fsis.usda.gov/OA/pubs/aptherm.htm > > Paul > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pic microcontroller discussion list > > [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Gordon Varney > > Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 9:15 AM > > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > > Subject: Re: [PIC]: How is the stability of the 16F628's > > internaloscillator ? > > > > > > The real problem with the freezer method, or ice cube is that the ice > > cube is at the same temp as the freezer and that is only 10 to 20 > > degrees. Most freezers are not much cooler than that. and a deep > > freezer is only about 5 degrees. (Also to much water and moisture). > > > > The best method is to go a local office supply store, and buy canned > > air. The type to blow out the key board or just to blow out the inside > > of sensitive electronics as the ads state. Turn it upside down and > > spray the propellant. (-20 to -30 degrees) be care of frost byte. (I'm > > serious) Spray it directly onto the board or just barely pull the > > trigger to drip the liquid onto a single part. (You can also find an > > intermittent connection real fast. ) I have placed a circuit board > > into an insulated freezer bag, then blasted a can of canned air > > (upside down) into the bag closed it for a half hour, opened the bad > > to measure the temp at -10 degrees. The board is good and soaked then. > > > > Gordon Varney > > www.voiceactiveremote.com > > www.talk2it.com > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads > > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads