You better check the owners manual for your refrigerator freezer, grab a thermometer and tweak the thermostat. Every freezer I've used is designed to run at 0 to 5 degreesF and the refrigerator compartment is between 32 an 38 degF. A temperature of 10 to 20degF in a freezer will give soft ice cream and premature food spoilage. Here's a publication from the USDA about temperature for food storage safety. http://www.fsis.usda.gov/OA/pubs/aptherm.htm Paul > -----Original Message----- > From: pic microcontroller discussion list > [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Gordon Varney > Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 9:15 AM > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: [PIC]: How is the stability of the 16F628's > internaloscillator ? > > > The real problem with the freezer method, or ice cube is that the ice > cube is at the same temp as the freezer and that is only 10 to 20 > degrees. Most freezers are not much cooler than that. and a deep > freezer is only about 5 degrees. (Also to much water and moisture). > > The best method is to go a local office supply store, and buy canned > air. The type to blow out the key board or just to blow out the inside > of sensitive electronics as the ads state. Turn it upside down and > spray the propellant. (-20 to -30 degrees) be care of frost byte. (I'm > serious) Spray it directly onto the board or just barely pull the > trigger to drip the liquid onto a single part. (You can also find an > intermittent connection real fast. ) I have placed a circuit board > into an insulated freezer bag, then blasted a can of canned air > (upside down) into the bag closed it for a half hour, opened the bad > to measure the temp at -10 degrees. The board is good and soaked then. > > Gordon Varney > www.voiceactiveremote.com > www.talk2it.com > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads