I agree, it isn't so bad, the problem is that you can never be absolutely sure it will work from chip to chip. On a one off for personal use it may be fine, but there are many that would refuse to put such a device on the market. Josh -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Douglas Adams Kyrre Aalerud wrote: > That wasn't so bad? > > Another chip gave me 1024 at normal temp... > They ar probably from same batch, but it seems very good :-) -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu