I think that's the point. It may work under ideal situations. But there is no guarantee at any time. I think there has been debates on this in the past. If you wanted to give yourself a bit more stability than a crystal, but want to save a bit of money, why not use a ceramic resonator? If you really want to test it out, put the circuit in a freezer and see if it still works. Then heat it up with a hair dryer. I'd be interested to see what happens. Josh -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Douglas Adams Kyrre Aalerud wrote: > I am writing a system that will use 2 software RS232 connections at 9600. > (I don't use the internal usart because I already had perfectly adjusted > code that could handle both ports in the same routine, so I save space...) > > I was using a 4.0000 spec'ed crystal with buildt in capacitors while > developing... > Now, I wish to save a few bucks and drop the oscillator and use the internal > one, but I am concerned about the stability. It states one place in the > docs that it varies from 3.65 to 4.28 but I don't know if that is a horror > scenario or if it actually could happen. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu