Since stupid human was mentioned below i just had to share my story... When i was quite young I thought I knew a bit about things electrical, so nearing xmas the tree was up and the lights were yet to work. So fresh out of the swimming pool, still wet and sitting on a concrete floor I thought it was time to fix em. I read the voltage on the bulbs, 14volts. Ahh I thought that cant hurt me so I began to insert wires so i could work out which bulb was open circuit. Yes you guessed, I got a very good 240v shock, but i think the bigger shock was that my assessment was soooo wrong. Took me many years before i discovered exactly why i got booted. Justin PS Have had many a failed argument with some electrical professionals when I tell my story and state that if you remove 1 14v bulb from daisy chained xmas lights and measure across the 2 contacts in the light socket with a voltmeter it will read 240v. -----Original Message----- From: Jinx [mailto:joecolquitt@CLEAR.NET.NZ] Sent: Thursday, 7 November 2002 08:26 To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [PIC] What have you designed using PIC? > I'm just not too sure on the safety of the system, Jinx. > The bulbs are connected directly to AC so they would need > suitable physical protection - how have you organised that? > > RP I presume this is what you're talking about - The strings used where sheathed in clear heat-shrink tubing. But many 240V strings available off the shelf don't have even that protection - the bulbs are bare and as they have passed all the regs and been deemed fit for sale I guess you take the same risk that you would with any exposed conductor. Obviously it's not the intention to make something dangerous, but accidents and stupid human tricks do happen -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu