Thank you Olin and David, I checked in Eagle 3.55 and it took a while to find ... which is not intuitive at all, my major gripe with Eagle. It's a PITA to use unless I suppose you've been using it since the text command days and know what all the obscure commands mean. Roman: you should try Eagle 4.x; I had similar complaints against 3.55 when I briefly tried it, but 4.x was MUCH better - many of the things that used to be obscure commands now have GUI menus and the default setup makes libary searching much easier, for instance. BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.