On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, Roman Black wrote: *>Eke Neehr wrote: *> *>> No, I don4t trying in lab. I4m testing outdoors *>> and the relay vibrating when it has to turn off *>> in the twilight and turn on the lamp! *>> To place a 1 uF cap between collector *>> and base don4t works at all ! And just in case it has anything to do with the lamp where you removed the filter caps you do need a filtered supply for this circuit. For example by using: D1N4004 Z12V1W 470uF40V Unfiltered o-----AK--KA--*---||---GND | IN 7812 GND---GND OUT | v your circuit power supply The zener reduces the voltage to something the 7812 will accept. Peter PS: I presume you want to run the lamp on dc because it has some sort of inverter in it - like it's a lf lamp. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics