On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Alan B. Pearce wrote: *>>this would make the Piezo very sensitive to vibration -ergo *>>when rain falls on it vibration happens voltage occurs. I *>>think I've seen water proof Piezo tweeters somewhere so they *>>might work. *> *>I was not thinking of having it like that, I was figuring on having the *>piezo unit driven at low level by being the tuned element in an oscillator, *>and a PLL to look for frequency shift, or some form of amplitude detection *>to look for amplitude damping. It may be that if the level of oscillation is *>controlled at a low enough level, then a drop of rain may be enough to make *>the piezo element go low enough in Q, or be damped enough to cause it to *>drop out of oscillation. Spent too much time in aerospace ? ;-) A raindrop falls from at least 500 meters of height and has a minimum size. I'd use a simple microphone attached to a drum-like structure (with saran wrap skin I think). This may react to other things besides rain. I still favor the idea of measuring just soil humidity. Peter -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics