Possible, what I thought was get one of those Piezo's that are in= a coin holder looking affair - about $3.00 here, fix it into a waterproof box with a bolt glued to its backside - this would= make the Piezo very sensitive to vibration -ergo when rain falls on it= vibration happens voltage occurs. I think I've seen water proof= Piezo tweeters somewhere so they might work. Just disappointed that I can't get the Opto bit to work - must= try some crazed glass see if that makes a difference. colin -- cdb, bodgy1@optusnet.com.au on 04/11/2002 -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics