Do people really pay for devices to automatic turn on their wiper thingies so they don't have to reach down and flick a switch? Are these the same people who don't know which way to look when driving in the rain? I would suggest that they stop the car on the road, crawl underneath it and see if the road is wet or dry. I have found that a wet road smells like a wet potato chip, if that is any help. Pookie ps Bill's rain detector is to send me outside and see if I come back wet. ----- Original Message ----- From: "cdb" To: Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 2:06 AM Subject: Re: [EE]:Infra-red Opto help -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads