Here's a wild one - what about using one of those simple X-band, Gunn-diode Doppler units that are used as motion detectors? Experimenting with a low-power Gunn-diode based, X-band Doppler RADAR (police speed RADAR) unit a few years ago during the onset of rain I noticed was able to 'hear' (they supply the recovered Doppler shift to a speaker on the unit) the 'precip' as it fell ... sort of a whistling sound ... This was done by looking 'up' through the roof of my garage ... the roof was covered with the usual 'composition shingles' and the actual ceiling in the garage was composed of sheet rock (gypsum board). RF Jim -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads