I gather the manufacturer wouldn't have put extra traces on the card for no reason. A lot of the inexpensive ethernet cards I've seen have "clever" PCB designs that allow the same PCB to be used for different transceiever options depending one which components are populated (ie if FULLY populated, they do AUI, 10base2, and 10baseT all on one card.) They might also allow for the 9V converter to be run from either 5V or 12V inputs, depending on availability/etc. And, if I don't plan on using coax, can I just forget about the 12V supply? I *think* so. I've not actually designed a PC ethernet card... I guess the only real way to find out is to build my circuit with only 5V, get it working on the card I have that I know doesn't use 12V, then try it with one of these other cards. Well, you COULD find the actual datasheet(s) for all the components... BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads