William Chops Westfield wrote: Well, thank you all for the quick help! Armed with the possibility that it might be putting out 9V, I checked out the specs on another chip on the board, a MTD392. Turns out that the MTD392 is the coax transceiver, and it specs out -9V as its input. So, the question is, what else on the card might need 12V? Other than AUI I mean. I gather the manufacturer wouldn't have put extra traces on the card for no reason. And, if I don't plan on using coax, can I just forget about the 12V supply? I guess the only real way to find out is to build my circuit with only 5V, get it working on the card I have that I know doesn't use 12V, then try it with one of these other cards. Bleh. I wish there was an easier way. I suppose I could cut the trace on the board, then toss it into a PC. Any other ideas? Thanks! Josh -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Douglas Adams > This is very likely to be an isolated 5V to 9V DC/DC converter. I believe > that cards with an AUI (15 pin) connector will require 12V to power the > transceiver at the other end of the AUI cable (the requirement for 12V is > part of the AUI specification.) Cards with "thinnet" connectors (10base2: > BNC connectors) use the 5V/9V converter to power the section of the circuit > that actually connects to the coax (and need to be at least somewhat > isolated from the PC's power supply.) A card that does ONLY twisted pair > shouldn't need 12V OR the DC/DC converter. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads