This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0112_01C282D7.B64BDDC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit *** Yes! This circuit DOES oscillate as shown *** Here's a simple RC oscillator that MAY show promise for driving very low voltage boost inverters. The basic idea came from the 4 transistor boost convertern cicruit I posted a few days ago but this has been changed so that the oscillator uses two transistors only. This is essentially a 2 transistor Schmitt trigger with feedback. Values shown work but are typical only and will need to be adapted to a specific design. The oscillator starts well at Vin down to less than 0.9 volt Adding R5 & Q3 in place of R4 with an inductor to ground from collector of Q3 gave enthusisatic negative going pulses (as would bee xpected). I played with, rectification and a LED load. Efficiency was not marvellous but can probably be made quite respectable. The oscillator proper can be designed to have low current drain. While its function may not be obvious to the uninitiated, Q2 is absolutely vital for oscillation. It serves to provide Schmitt hysteresis by providing a lower voltage across R1 with Q1 off, Q2 on and a higher voltage with Q1 on, Q2 off. The only critical design demand for oscillation is that !q1_on is lower than !q2_on. Fir fully saturated transistors tghis is satisfied by R3 rather larger than R4 as shown. The advantage and potential disadvantage of this circuit is that operation is RC time constant controlled, independent of inductor flyback timing. This can allow confidence in coil driving and on time etc but care must be taken with duty cycle allowed and not driving the inductor long enough to allow it to be severely saturated. The circuit may be redrawn as a lontailed pair cross coupled oscillator (of sorts) although the connection of both bases to one collector and no bases to the other may bend the brain somewhat until it is appreciated that feedback is via the common emitter coupling. I tried an inductor in place of R4 and while this did produce flyback action it was not very satisfactory. More experimentation MAY produce a useable design. I wonder what Roman can do with this? :-) Russell McMahon ------=_NextPart_000_0112_01C282D7.B64BDDC0 Content-Type: image/gif; name="smpsosc2.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smpsosc2.gif" R0lGODlhqAHzAPcAAFRSVPz6/A8ARAEABEgAnzoABAAAAAAAAAANOgAAAf8AxBUAjwAOYwABKHcA TwEAA9Ag1I2TA2RPYl8AgGd4AAHwAIB1dgEAFADoAADAAAAAAAAAYo6QCQHwAgB14gAAj6/Edlnw FNd10lcAj/8A7xUAwgAAVwAAAwBqzgDAAwB1WwAAj/DgAI6/AAl17lIAjwBOjgGQHQAATwAAAw8q 4mHAjwB1jwAAU2Tyj8COA3UAAAAAANpmdieQFEtTIAB1DmauYgDyWwADAAAAAHyEAMCPAHUPfgAo IFD3DMC/kHW2dgBRFJpM/PKPj00o7wAAwvG3V/8BA/8Azv8AAwDvDwBekAAAAAABAPsAGCYAkEsP GwBhIsQAT+gAA3UfDABfkA8AjwAAUwDXlwBHFnyPAMCxAHX5dgC/FFBPIMABmXUBYgAADwBKAAAI AAAAfgAAIH9DAAg6APpcAL9WFyBpLINlkMZ3xQAAFRH3bwG9FwCXygAGFQC6bwCPFwDJjwNDFrcn dlwFFHgAABUBAANzAACxAED5dY6/AdsAjwMwFvB1SFwAkMx2ABuPAAOPAABTAEr8B47yANuXAAMG AIdChxcAAQDmdQAVAQACAAAAAIdkAC+QAA4AAAEAAA0AAAAAAOZ/ACEIAK/6ABa/AADgAACMAIdP AC8AAHh4b46/F4Z1hzgAAQBWDwCrAIf4AC+/AA5Y/wGe/wAA/wCA/w3QDwCHAGAAAAyAAGAYxAyf 6A0AdQCAAA4IAAGhAAAAAACAACAAnJMBwE8AdQAAACfo2ACe8wAASgCAAAYAfAAAwL0AdcQAACB/ m5MI8k/6TQC/AIwgsC2DwK/GdRYAANmYfxTACPd1+r8Av3/r5wG2wAD5dQC/AIjc7748/3VO/wAA f4fg2AE8wABOdQAAAEfcABWbAPf8AL+/AHiYf/C/CHV1+gAAv+gAAMABAAAAAAAAAA7gAAGMAABP AAAAAGAAJQwwrgAARgAAAJ2k2L+PwETRdQArAAHP2AAEwACndQAEACH5BAAAAAAALAAAAACoAfMA Bwj/AAMIHEiwoMGDCBMqXMiwocOHECNKnEixosWLGDNq3Mixo8ePIEOKHEmypMmTKFOqXMmypcuX MGPKnEmzps2bOHPq3Mmzp8+fQIMKHUq0qNGjSJMqXcq0qdOnUKNK3QhgYFWCV6dq3co1adasXcOK HevzK1awAQCoRUu2rdu3Hc1iLSgXrt27eCFWZYu2bt6/gAHvNdjXauDDiJmujchX7VyBbIMuTpzW MWWKk4mutXx4c2S8ni9LDK3Zs+nTqFOrXs26tevXsGPLnk27tu3buHPrbl2UdOfNiX2LdihcaGbE x39/Hq4wOfOhy/9Gf45wOnWe1u9mv26Yu+bh272H//dec7xb89TRk4+pfmx78OuNw4/fnD7Q92Hx X9ZvHyX/rf8h119PAWpVYGAHDtjcccBV91yC0ilYkl/d0ZWehBZiKBKFkDnIHIR5gaihVc5xdpCI TqFol4oaDubhi5Sx+JaMEl712XQ0HpUjWTv2V1eDC/UI3YgdEpmTkJIZiaSRxO2nJJM2LXkfk1JC CWNnUFZpZYbBWanllkU6SSWYLn055ZNktmTmT2siVVibwTF4onNpdQXkY/XR92aaF3HIJZ5TUWhi QnB+V2edhYp56KKANgqVXy4ylGiSh0bKJ2Ng2UhYdJN6dKemkuppGqOXMkbicpwGSmpxhBHZqYBF 3v9IqIFhOvonVQzeGdWrIcoZpq62pljhsK1+9KNYvLaoqKcVJmtsqSs5C5OKn9L5lLQ+zvcsqgBC 6x+Pt15JVa1+CuvtSdhyNOh2IEI66K7nfpsflzi6Gq+8XBVGqrj7oRbuvSGlq1Ff784qmrWVgQow SQJnpG92DbNUcHUTE2oisAsTK5Wv+/4rHXqWBqlxxxlHLPGyD5VbbMcmz4syghPpK3KtlWXMb4Qx xnxiqCHTbDPJoL2cMKDc5inrz6fmDOumX1lW74KLYrwwqzgLZnHTCAeLtF675bZTyyOh6jTVK2+N mdTofm311ZCNGqrZFWVtkrNgx5w1p4653dCNHGP/Xbe5L9Ft58hAt72X3Duv3PSvhF+6puD5Eo5j 3u1FdmykKvP5uNr5Ijx5xXvPeTGip/7d1OY6ma7XyNYh/ratNmYOLepHgvS0weqyLinoTf57rM2u h50670zXx+3xC44ndevEv6474yWjPfeR0tO1/PMsS1796kE2P/ODXYdPdto4jc+0arfKTLP4umGk ekq8mj8h9cEn7L2fspdeIPP8vY/vTfUL2PDME8CeGUZ53utd8tx3HcgFjnMM+56adpfAm3UpdeyB 4IooWDjnaat8GcRgiLqnMFM1UIMTFGHQFuiz0J1QhWVCIVw+pzXcPUiG0cLhjFjYuMS9sHbT0uF5 /3jYQ48JjSa0A+HaROfDPIkHhikEYtWK10QLfjB5BGtXCKU4xbMUzYofcmHUiqizIEJxhFS8mf9i KEbLMcuMXFyiCWsYRuLQSYtwVOLS5tjBK4rMjQyM1Ra3WEIslXGNUeyd+uJmoSQ+cC6ItJ16KrhH BfoNP3vK4yMP+KHwBLCSgySdJtnISfCJrZDkmRRpHBm4BkVybv6i4w2F+D8AoilbfDScLBVISj0q S0EIpBcZeZlIW9qrRtzrDmfy58ReGnNErxylDUknF/2wsjy3HJDyrPcrSlbxZGcEJjKTCb1K9SmU UcqmnjCVRTxhEp3YPKZ9pHVNJGpTmbhUUyyHGf9Bie2zhdzJZHyq5DmnwTNsFZtMNFUi0IEy1JOU LJFFepTATybnk4pp5D1hOZqKDsubu3QYyDxazoXuzZXi7OdoAKo4I4pxQ5hhqTDLtsGUCrCMMm2W Sz34LJz2cYw7dQ+GUFQ5mu4sZO+EqU9zSs2gCnWoPbVeqr6ZIb5MVKlSbSYdC2nSq44zLhT7IlXP wiiM8nOpSbPi5KK2PZdtFKxhBeNP4fpGJo41pAezKV3TuEskieiUd8XrEZ9YV7viVUh4jKtTmerH 9RDwbkScK0B/1DeeknCqij0rySg7OsZeS69tBCPHUjankpKIqQSUHAkF20KDlhSVkXurJUW7TLT/ NtW0BlysTgM7NM/6TpRAve1T82nHhK5Wsr/FnJxyy1q00RC5sAPup4CLLNC+DpALTOpjalss4qW2 tRzUrjLx17a2dBV+c8Tu1azZUvCiNr28td85Z5o9355OmxW83nG96k7stY6dR4ssWn9H3/yAVDBt JaZhGTm93O2XweJJcJzY95pATojCvJlvhM36MQ7H18OajaeAV5pKCU/YwSPO5ZlSTM6AHhhmKGab huXz4JjCrboxziyEacxi0t7YrePCIn8Ntd4h/7hbe2Xie0xHwyUfGcgDO25RjfLcKT8ZyUnOqn23 7Ms0guzKgyssX7+rIyKSGcyqiipfJbtGwB4W/82xFbMX2ytXNsm4v9OE86NuuuYOGTejCz6gWPUM Lz7PWXTqXYrlJoax8xKayyrGolX3nDJgOfrR0LUtokf72ZMK59KYphFEM3PpUXMX07S6cKXzZidT ZxrVRFZ1cd0zaljHGV0JdS2t3QxqWBP0n69WDLB7jWoHKs3WaY4jKJENuC4vm9mAVrYhoU1pacOY 2p22thyxHW1nT5vb3X7mscGt6Jk0VDsaJXe4nclc86Zb3UqBE6jaDS5zEjvU7DQqiTV177fxG97G kY0PM9W/UfX7sos5OMAHHeTBAnxjeY5yXh+O4/ja2OEUL4/A6Qzpl14w473J96Gz/G2Q89jb1/82 +cnF/XGVU0rbXXR5WUg88uBqetsyJxCm6Kvrm8c857S8Uuw4Kd6WAx07NPfzGOktQaMfPZxN1/XQ d+z0p6NcqwQu+rOtLuJZ15yZOt46181NvxffeuwsRyKG18529KEd5q0E8dvjlSy5z/1cxr47nPOu dzDzve9P/jvgfyz4wcOt8IbfGuIT/7PFM75kUH880uLX0XcpXPLzS3toT4t5aMJ94Lrt/IU+L9VJ i/6rVz+qxU8/+sh3V9+sd6zON6/L2BPX9bZPE7Yun/uup773ug/6Ny9qduBD2fcn5XmIjV9vzXsc z8u0O/PXLRMnN3EwBJ7+DElPVYKVU/sr/L3XuEwPdvCfPZ1cI3iuMmV+NOK+/Z5HOvzJlC7ez7+W 4r+/bPOv/9ujv/9e8n4AuH/2NIBb8ir2Z4Dk43wKiHr/14Dxx30QGFDCN4Epkl+RVoAWGGeelIFk t4HnJ1+rt3zoBYLdQmofZVEVaIJuslvBdWYMyILlZlrf93zIJ4P3wTtA4i75VXwb4oM4GC0mFhdD CEvSF4T+0XZKuIRHiIRGCIRn04TqUoROWCZQGDdX6ClZWIVc2IVe+IVgGIZiOIZkWIZmeIZomIZq uIZs2IZu+IZwGIdtGBAAOw== ------=_NextPart_000_0112_01C282D7.B64BDDC0-- -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu