> using 0 to represent nothing? Can you think of a better way? How would you > do it? :-) The Romans never worked out the advantages of doing it at all !!! Hence their arcane numbering scheme. > how do u get eleven? > > 00 01 10 11 > > I get three > > unless you count 00 as nothing Three IS eleven in base 2. Or, should that be, eleven is three in base 2? Or ......... Lessee - nought, one, ten, eleven, one hundred, one hundred and one, one hundred and ten, one hundred and eleven, one thousand, ... . Of course, it may well be argued that the NAMES of the whole powers of the base in the decimal based system implicitly specify the base. RM . -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu