> > I am currently trying to fix some programming issues with the Wisp628 > > and a 16F877A. > > If you have trouble contact me, the 16F87xA's should program OK (no > /MCLR that can be used for I/O, no Vpp-before-Vcc mentioned in the > specs). Wouter is correct, as usual. The problems had nothing to do with Vpp before Vcc, but with a cold solder joint. I was speculating that it might be, because of the question raised about the order of Vpp versus Vcc. Lesson learned: read the datasheet first! The programming algorithm specifically states that Vpp is raised AFTER Vcc (although it MCLR must rise from 5VDC to 13VDC in less than 72 clocks). By the way, if anyone new to PIC programming is reading, the Wisp628 programmer is extremely easy and cost effective as a prototype programmer. I have yet to see anyone produce a kit with such detailed instructions and pictures. Brian Smith -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu