Well, you all "down under" shouldn't feel too bad. We still have folks in the eastern states that think the west is still filled with cowboys and Indians.... Tim -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Olin Lathrop Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:52 PM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [PIC]: Direct LED connection? > However, I have seen many 2-pin (ungrounded) outlets in my travels > around the United States. Did I imagine these? 2-pin yes, but not ungrounded. These were the norm until the 1960s(?) when all new house outlets had to be 3-pin. There are still many in houses that were built before this requirement. My mother's house was built in the late 1950s or early 1960s and all original outlets were 2-pin but new ones added since then are 3-pin. My house was built in 1985 and is all 3-pin. My office is in a building originally built in 1880 (before electrons were invented) and there are some very strange looking power outlets that I've never seen anywhere else in a few places. Fortunately none of these seem to be live. ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body