Bob, > I am sure you use higher voltages than 415 for neighborhood > distribution, > don't you?!? Otherwise you'd use an awful lot of Cu or Al. I have a delightful 11000 volts in the corner of my front yard. I'll wait until the garden overgrows for a little camouflage before I put it on the market. On a quiet night, I can hear a distant buzz! :-) So yes, we have 33kV and 11kV transformers scattered around the place. I can not remember what it originates at the stations - it's been far too long. I was simply referring to the common supply lines. > I believe GFIs in the US are supposed to trip at 7 or more ma. I have often wondered about this. I have done some paramedics training, and from memory - doesn't the heart start to fibrillate at about 25mA. I've often thought it cruel that - if my memory is correct and it is indeed 25mA - our RCCBs are set at 30mA :-) Even at 30mA though, I know that electricians (in Aus) will run separate unprotected circuits for refrigerators and airconditioners. My brother recently refurbished his kitchen and his refrigerator is on a protected circuit. He said it has tripped twice in say, 6 months. 7mA is incredibly low. I reckon everybody on this list has had more than that! Nothing like a little heart starter! :-) Regards, Sean -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body