In article <3DC28F61.660E@ezy.net.au> you write: >Blars Blarson wrote: [...] >> http://www.blars.org/blackblars1.html >But I really can't see the second adaptation working >well at all. You're right, I hadn't thought through the turn-on conditions properly. Thanks for having a look. The darlington specs I looked at tended to have vce(sat) higher that simple transistors, but I'm sure you are right about them being better than my attempt. -- Blars Blarson blarson@blars.org http://www.blars.org/blars.html "Text is a way we cheat time." -- Patrick Nielsen Hayden -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body