On 10/29/02 11:38 PM, "James Newton, webhost" wrote: Snip > If it wasn't for *nix boxes being so totally unreliable, I'd look for a > search engine to put on a old box... > ...But I've never seen a *nix box that didn't get hacked eventually and I > don't have time to be a security expert on top of everything else. I'll buy > another license for NT eventually, or maybe try the XP server version. Snip You have got to be kidding right? (or I would say at the least seriously misinformed, you didn't drink that microsoftian koolaid did ya?) With seemingly 90% plus of systems running windoze, all the crackers/script kiddies have the inclination and tools that expose those the most, and my own personal experience is that if I had a windoze server, I would have been hacked 10 times over, because keeping up with the *new* security holds they find weekly (my god, they just released not one but FIVE security patches last week for windoze), you will be hacked. I'm not saying that any platform is perfect, but I am a true believer that many eyes will find the problems faster, and deliver fixes quicker, rather than Microsofts model. As an example of the constant bandwidth that is destroyed by this crap, I have posted an analysis of my web logs, http://www.dkgomez.com/cgi-bin/hacked.pl , which shows that the crap I get hit with is all about trying to get into windoze boxes. I got more concerned about security, and have shutdown most all of my ports, and made the ones that were open more secure. Performance wise, a *nix system would kick NT's *ss, and if you've had hacking experience against a *nix system, you chose the wrong system, or didn't lock it down enough. May I suggest one of properly configured Linux system, most include firewalls, most services are disabled by default, and performance is great. The even more secure services could be offered by a secure BSD flavor. Dave Gomez -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics