>Yes there is a PIC in this thing. If you have a PIC and you know where the zero crossings are, you ought to be able to start the relay in "early". Having it close _at_ the zero crossing would get you fewer sparks as well. Then you have the whole 8 ms to get it de-energized again. Or do you have a minimum closed time? You have the most interesting projects. Must be the work you do. You lab would be fun to work in :) Other simple-minded idea: Bigger, nastier spring on the relay, and more drive current to pull it in. Barry >generates a huge pulse of energy at 2.5megacycles Old timer! >Imagine trying >to work your PIC on the same board as a 1500 watt AM station. I think the >FCC will not be happy about this either. Filter it, license it, go on the air! -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads