>> When selecting IR LEDs, pay attention to the divergence (beam angle). Get something that will match your lens's viewing angle. One configuration I have used is a "halo" of LEDs arranged in a ring around the lens of the camera. Edmund Scientific and a few others also sell some LARGE infrared sources that might be appropriate. << Why not use an ordinary LEB (light emitting bulb). These things are actually quite efficient and reliable at above-visible wavelengths. Start with an ordinary bulb and lower the voltage just below where you can't see the filament lit anymore. ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body