Hi all, I hope Microchip got it right. In all PICs I have seen with regards to programming, MCLR is raised to VPP after raising VCC. In the data sheet for the 12F675 it mentions to raise MCLR to VPP 'before' raising VCC. I have noted in earlier PICs about applying high voltages to MCLR before power is applied and damaging the pin. Anyone have some more insight? Best regards Tony mICros http://www.bubblesoftonline.com mailto:sales@bubblesoftonline.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.