> The device depends on the internal RC oscillator to provide the > 128 KHz clock used during programming. > Try setting FUSEX to 37C or even B7C. OK, thanks, done that. Still chokes on Fuse. Fusex is reported to have programmed with 07c, 37c or b7c I'm sure it's going to be something simple that will become apparent in the fullness of time. Just for now I can't see WTF is wrong, and I have to move on -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics