Please folks... if you're going to slag Libertarians (the= Libertarian party and their beliefs as they exist in the United States) -- at= least be informed. So far everything that's been put forward here= about Libertarians is pretty far from reality. http://www.lp.org/issues/ "Libertarians believe the answer to America's political problems= is the same commitment to freedom that earned America its greatness: a= free- market economy and the abundance and prosperity it brings; a= dedication to civil liberties and personal freedom that marks this country= above all others; and a foreign policy of non-intervention, peace, and= free trade as prescribed by America's founders." (Source: The Libertarian Party: A Short History, 2000) Matt Pobursky Maximum Performance Systems On Sat, 12 Oct 2002 16:28:59 +1300, Russell McMahon wrote: >>>Libertarians (the original poster was quoting a Libertarian >>>propaganda feed) only care about reducing government to the= point >>>where everyone is living in an unsafe world without= healthcare, but >>>"no taxes". =A0And >better >>>keep your gun loaded, and close at hand. > >I recall a definition I saw somewhere long ago - > >"A Libertarian is a person who desires a strong Police force to= >protect them from their slaves." > >IMO, Libertarians views are often reasonable enough if each= person >could live and act without influencing or being influenced by= all >others. As soon as one interacts with other people liberty and= rights >needs be tempered by the =A0liberty and rights of others and their= >system crumbles. > >cf Donne's obvious but salutary "No man is an island complete= unto >himself".If we could find a suitable island to send all the >Libertarians to maybe they would be happy ? :-) -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.