> ... debounce 'E' ... That explains a lot, as I was indeed missing something fundamental about LCD's: I was not aware that it would jump to the next character, so I didn't debounce. Just tried a tactile switch instead, and can get it to set just one character at a time. > ... why not PIC controlled instead of manual ... This was just an experiment (incremental development to it's extreme :-). Forgot my PIC programmer back in Texas but I just got a 7407 and will re-build the programmer for the next phase of the LCD experiments. Much thanks, -Neil. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.