Everytime I wanted to order, I found them from my heap of defective printer, harddisk, power-supply, etc. Save me quite some money and more importantly time when retrieving them from these "hot-spares". Cheers, Ling SM -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads