I had contemplated purchasing the Promate II but based on how crappy the PIC START PLUS operated I was not willing to through good money after bad. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Mansheim" To: Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [PIC]:18F452 Programmers > Michael Simpson wrote: > > I use the 18F Series. I use both the pick start plus and the warp 13 > > to program em. Have not found any others that work very well. Even > > the microchip Pickstart plus is very touchy. I find I have to reset > > the darn thing quite a bit. Also look for a lot longer program > > times. With the pic start plus it takes 1-2 minutes to program a 252 > > or 452 chip. The Warp 13 can do it in 20 seconds with verify. > > I didn't mention this before, because it looked like the OP was only > interested in cheap programmers. But I might as well point out that I > use Microchip's Promate II to program the 18F series, and have had no > problems. > Regarding speed, I was impressed with how much faster the 18F's program > compared to the 16F's, which I assume is due to changes in the flash. > With the promate, I can program an 18F452 in about 17 seconds, which > includes verify at 3 voltage levels. Just the programming takes about > 12 seconds. > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads > > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads