Question: Why is such a high-output wall-wart required? Is this to support certain programming operations with certain PICs? If not, why not choose something more suitable with lower voltage? I would guess that most folks here understand that the unreg output, as you cited, from a "12V wall-wart" can be 15 - 16 V with light load. I have good operation of the TERN TD-40 board (where the 40 MHz 80186 CMOS CPU runs alsmost hot to the touch) using unregulated wall-warts labled "9 VDC" and a 7805 regulator. There *are* times I wish this were a switcher yielding more efficiency (some of the newer products do offer switchers as an option). RF Jim -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads