Just a small note... Just checked the "C51 MCU Selection Guide" from Atmel. I can't find any *flash* modell with A/D in a "simple" DIP package (like the PIC16F87x modells). Am I missing something ? Jan-Erik S=F6derholm. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.