> I'm wondering why are you using an external 4Mhz crystal instead of > 16LF628's internal oscillator? Mostly because it was Friday afternoon and I knew the calibration value had long since been lost (or does 16F628 even have a calibration value like 12C508?), so I went with something I'd done many times before and didn't require any looking up in the manual. You are right, the internal RC oscillator would probably be the right answer, after checking a few things in the manual. > Or the LF version doesn't have one? It does. F and LF parts are the same silicon. The LF parts are the ones found to work at lower voltages. Sometimes regular F parts could have been labeled as LF but weren't because of stocking and demand issues. > That could save some power and reduce circuit complexity. Complexity yes, but power isn't an issue. Either way the PIC draws less than 1mA, which is dwarfed by the 100mA required from the battery to power the LEDs. ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body