> 1. Wisp.exe on non-NT windows (95, 98): 3:24 > 2. Wisp.exe on Win2K: 27:30 (much too slow to be usefull) > 3. XWisp.py on Win2K: 2:20 > > 1 is dominated by the 16f877 write timing. No it's not. The minimum wait time for programming one location of a 16F877 is 4mS. This means the theoretical minimum time to program a full 16F877 is 4ms/word x 8192 words = 33 seconds. I have working software and hardware that programs a full 16F877 using high voltage programming in 36 seconds. It also does two verify passes at the voltage limits, which takes a total of 55 seconds. I measured a Picstart+ programming a nearly full 16F876 at 127, which only includes one verify pass. ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.