> your programmer looks very interesting. I'll buy a PCB > and build one. > > Do you know when PIC18Fxxx suport would be ready? I am updating the website right now, new orders will be delivered with the 18f-capable firmware. > How much time it takes to fully program a PIC16F877? That question triggered some last minute code tweaking! Some measurements for 6944 instructions (note that this is write only, no readback/verify by the PC software, but the programmer itself still does a verify, at least for a 16f877): 1. Wisp.exe on non-NT windows (95, 98): 3:24 2. Wisp.exe on Win2K: 27:30 (much too slow to be usefull) 3. XWisp.py on Win2K: 2:20 1 is dominated by the 16f877 write timing. 2 is caused by hardware emulation instead of real hardware access, so you see that I had to write new PC software... 3 seems to be caused mainly by context switching? Some notes: - bottom limit is the write time required by the chip istelf: 10 ms/location, so 1:10 for 7k - PicStart+: 2:00 (but it writes all 8K, it always does??) - a 16f877A is much faster: 1:04 - an 18F is *much* faster (even using single-panel writes): 0:35 Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.