Hello I'm doing ICSP on 16F874's using a PICSTART+ If I program the devices with code protect on and then try to reprogram them I get the "configuration bits not set" error message from MPLAB. I asked the local Microchip Tech Support about this and he said that I should be able to perform a bulk erase by just clicking the "Erase Flash Device" button on the PICSTART window. If I do this, then the "active" LED on the PICSTART flashes for a fraction of a second, but nothing else seems to happen. I'm using v5.70 of MPLAB and v3.00 of PICSTART firmware. Do I need a production type programmer to do a bulk erase, or is the problem down to the in-circuit nature of the programming? Thanks Alan -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.