>> I don't know, we've been doing ok this year with 10! Evan Short Ingegnere Elettronico - FERRARI S.p.A. GES v. Ascari 55/57 41053 Maranello (MO) ITALY Tel. +39 (0536) 949.690 FAX +39 (0536) 949.377 mailto:eshort@ferrari.it << ...say , maybe I'm jumping to conclusions here , but are you implying that Ferrari uses PICs ? (...that signature and e-mail address + you lurking on the PICLIST ... ) V.Naicker -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.