> Another question: Can the 18F452 self-program ( bootload ) Yes > like the 16F877? Not exactly in the same way, sel-writing works more like on the 16f87xA parts. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads