Okay, I think I'll still bite, cause it's soooooo space-friendly. Also, soldered CPU's are so much friendlier in cars. (You can tell I'm really trying to justify this to myself). MP3's are part of the plan, as well as GPS, but EFI control is primary, and will not require that much processing power. Cheers, -Neil. > -----Original Message----- > From: pic microcontroller discussion list > [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Nick Veys > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 3:07 PM > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: [EE]: Mini-ITX board. Was: Why does a PC need 12V? > > > Negative! The Eden series boards are integrated. That processor is > part of the board. Thats one of the down sides, but I've heard from > several sources that the 800MHz C3 can handle DVD and most DiVX if those > are your concerns, I know of no other reasons for that kinda of proessor > power for a CarPC :). > > The C3's IIRC are the remnants of Via's purchase of Cyrix technology, > ill-fated as it was, it seems to have popped up with quite a kick ass > product. > > Via Arena (www.viaarena.com) is the place to go for information on these > boards, it's a community site ran by Via themselves. Many, many > reviews. > > http://www.thehardwire.com/reviews/?id=13&part=1 > > There's one detailing DVD/DiVX playing and an overview of the board, > it's a bit non-technical and a more savvy user could of course pull some > more power out of the machine but he did a decent job. > > But, if the speed scares you a but, I remember hearing of a 1GHz+ > version in the works, quite awesome. > > nick@veys.com | www.veys.com > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pic microcontroller discussion list > > [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of Pic Dude > > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 1:48 PM > > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > > Subject: [EE]: Mini-ITX board. Was: Why does a PC need 12V? > > > > > > Hey Mark, > > > > After much investigation, and being able to locate this board > > for US$110, I'm really excited about it, with one > > exception... The speed comparisons for the C3 800MHz > > processor put it at roughly 1/3 the performance of a Celeron > > 900Mhz. Ouch! > > > > But that might be enough for me. If it is, everything else > > is awesome, especially the size of the board, and that it > > includes on-board video, audio, etc in that space. > > > > However, if it is not, I may be in for trouble. I've not > > found this info anywhere, but hoping you can tell me since > > you have one... is the processor switchable to a regular > > Celeron or similar? If so, I could then bail myself out with > > a few more $$$. > > > > Thanks, > > -Neil. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: pic microcontroller discussion list > > > [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Jackson, Mark [DAN/PICK] > > > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 11:38 AM > > > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > > > Subject: Re: [EE]: Why does a PC need 12V? > > > > > > > > > Have you considered the VIA EPIA platform along with an ITX case ? > > > The motherboard was #90 and the case was #60. > > > > > > Visit ... > > > > > http://www.viavpsd.com/product/epia_mini_itx_spec.jsp?motherboardId=21 > > > > > > Of most interest to you, there is also a link on this page for > > > compatible cases, one of which (Cupid 2677) used a 12V DC input !! > > > > > > I have just build such a machine (EPIA, Cupid 2677, 15" TFT, 256Mb > > > SDRAM, 40G HDD), and it runs Windows 2000 just fine. > > > > > > Regards > > > Mark > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Pic Dude [mailto:picdude@PILOTTOOLS.COM] > > > Sent: 30 August 2002 16:23 > > > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > > > Subject: Re: [PICLIST] [EE]: Why does a PC need 12V? > > > > > > Morgan Olsson wrote: > > > > > > > Easiest would be to buy a all in one +5V only motherboard for > > > > embedded apps. I4ve seen somewhere a pentium compatible to good > > > > price. /Morgan > > > > > > Really? Where? I've searched and searched, and all I found was > > > PC/104-type boards at close to $1000 a piece! And many still using > > > 486-level processors. > > > > > > My requirements are simple -- small size, 300-400Mhz > > processor (I was > > > thinking Celeron since they were designed for cooler operation that > > > the PII's, etc), and perhaps 2 PCI slots. Need to support > > 2 HD's and > > > that's all. > > > > > > Would love to hear of anything you've come across that meets these > > > needs. > > > > > > Up to this point, I'm planning on using a Micro-ATX MB (or just > > > smaller like a Shuttle MB) in a custom case, with no removeable > > > drives/floppies/CD's, etc. Transfer of files, etc will be > > via USB or > > > ethernet. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > -Neil., > > > > > > -- > > > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with > > ONE topic: > > > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other > > [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads > > > > > > -- > > > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with > > ONE topic: > > > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other > > [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! 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