>There is also the way used in some model trains. The voltage is upped for >a few miliseconds to change a bistable relay. It could be used by lowering >the voltage, f.ex. by having two antiseries zeners shorted by a NC button >for ac. > >Peter Doesn't the voltage vary quite a bit as the train gets closer and further from the feed point? A while back (1960, Lionel) they actually did superimpose DC onto the AC to activate electromagnetics that ignored pure AC. As I recall it sounded the horn. I also recall that it appeared to make the voltage higher. Maybe this fooled you, too. Barry -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads